Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

crowded to the wall

English answer:

Gone to the wall (Bankrupt)

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English term

crowded to the wall

English Art/Literary Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
"Niel Herbert's father was one of the first failures to be crowded to the wall. He closed his little house, sent his cousin Sadie back to Kentucky, and went to Denver to accept an office position."

This is from Willa Cather's "A Lost Lady", set in 19th C. Midwest. The above sentence describes a man whose business failed in a once thriving town. I couldn't find the meaning of being "crowded the wall". I'd appreciate your help.
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Gone to the wall (Bankrupt)

This seems to be a play on the idiom/expression "Go to the wall". I would say that "crowded" is like saying "crowded out", as in being pushed into the situation, perhaps by financial/economical competition.

"Go to the wall"

1. To go bankrupt.
If the company loses money again this quarter, it will go to the wall sooner than later.
2. To steadfastly support someone or something regardless of any suffering one might incur as a result.
I would go to the wall for you, so I'll certainly endorse you on the campaign trail.
3. To yield or submit to someone or something.
Despite putting forth our best effort, we went to the wall and came home losers.
https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/gone to the wall

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* “And it behoves us to see that they're given a fair chance to develop clean and wholesome bodies without which any nation must go to the wall.”
https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/another-word-for/went_to_t...

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Or fail, go into receivership, go the rocks...etc

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"So far, four energy firms have GONE TO THE WALL, and four more are expected to follow in the coming days. On Sunday, the UK's sixth largest energy company, Bulb, announced it is seeking a bailout."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58620167

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"CROWD OUT"
"To become stronger or more successful than another group so that they fail or can no longer compete with you.
* The old inhabitants are being crowded out by rich young professionals.
* Traditional industries were crowded out with the growth of mass tourism."
https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/crowd...

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I.E:
This seems to be a blend of these two idioms, used together.
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : I don't think it necessarily means bankrupted - it seems to imply forced into an impossible position.
1 hr
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agree BdiL : Very well documented for. Maurizio
4 hrs
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agree Yvonne Gallagher : possibly just forced to the wall OR the first of the crowd ("in the once-thriving town") o go bankrupt. I don't agree it's anything to do with "crowded out" a different idiom
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agree AllegroTrans : Maybe made penniless; bankrupt perhaps
16 hrs
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agree José Patrício : up against the wall - In a difficult or troubling situation in which one's options or ability to act are limited or constrained. - https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/push someone up against...
21 hrs
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Reference comments

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Note from scholarly edition of A Lost Lady

73. crowded to the wall: Failed, defeated; in various forms the expression "the weakest is thrust to the wall" has been used since the fifteenth century.
https://cather.unl.edu/writings/books/0024#r73

From Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs (6 ed.)
The WEAKEST go to the wall
A saying with a much contested origin, though most commonly said to derive from the installation of seating (around the walls) for the old and feeble in the churches of the late Middle Ages in a time when the congregation routinely stood in the nave for services (quot. 1955). Other suggestions for the derivation involve being forced against the walls of the buildings lining a narrow medieval thoroughfare either in a fight or because one’s physical frailty was such that one was pushed aside by the crush in the middle of the street, which was, on one theory, considered the most agreeable place to walk. To go to the wall means figuratively ’to succumb in a conflict or struggle’.
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Great help! Thanks a lot for the reference and comment, Alison. Happy New Year :)
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