jyuan_us Apr 5, 2017:

Many thanks to Sharon Toh, MITI MCIL Your opinions overall are great and you have been particularly helpful about "市/urban“.

Sharon Toh, MITI MCIL Apr 3, 2017:

Examples http://tinyurl.com/m2e9wlb
You may look through the pages of results for examples of "市容单位".

jarv95888 Apr 3, 2017:

＠jyuan：sorry about the typo "pronoun" It should be "proper noun": ...choose whatever the "proper noun" they want, be it hygiene, health, sanitation, or environment and sanitation. I'm just making possible suggestions, though.

jarv95888 Apr 3, 2017:

Thank you for combing through the structure of the sentence. It makes the writer's intention more clearer. But don't you think the sentence would be more logic and unequivocal if there were "等单位” after "市容": 甲方应协助乙方协调与所在街道办事处、派出所、环卫、环保 规划、消防、市容等单位及周边居民的关系.
By the way, I searched online but didn't find such a separate department or office of city appearance. It is always a department of city appearance and environmental sanitation. If there isn't such a department, then, the listing is repeating itself. That's why I said it was illogic. Nevertheless, I totally agree to your reading of the sentence. Maybe, there is an office of city appearance or city image in the township.

Sharon Toh, MITI MCIL Apr 3, 2017:

Nothing illogical 甲方应协助乙方协调：
- 与所在街道办事处的关系；
- 与派出所的关系；
- 与环卫（单位）的关系；
- 与环保 规划（单位）的关系；
- 与消防（单位）的关系；
- 与市容（单位）的关系及
- 与周边居民的关系

Sharon Toh, MITI MCIL Apr 3, 2017:

市容单位 I just want to point out that 环卫、环保 规划、消防、市容 are all clearly (at least to me) referring to 单位 or (government) departments.

And I also agree with jyuan_us that 市 does not necessarily refer to city. 市容单位 exists at every administrative level, not just the city level. I'd think 'urban' fits the bill better than 'city'.

Laura Brown (asker) Apr 2, 2017:

Hey y'all, did not mean to incite all this negativity! Just wanted to ask for comments and opinions on this entry from the community. Thanks to Frank for the great answer, and let's try to keep it positive!

jyuan_us Apr 2, 2017:

jarv95888 I just pointed out the translation on the site you cited was wrong, and you based on your argument on the wrong information, and if you think that is barking up the wrong tree, I have to point out that you misunderstood the English phrase of "barking up the wrong tree". I was just pointing out the fallacy in your argument, and you suggested I "make my complaints to them"?Why should I do so? Whether they used the word in a wrong way or not is none of my business. But it is my business to point out your fallacy because your fallacy was misleading for the question asked.

jarv95888 Apr 2, 2017:

I did read your posts. Still, you are barking up the wrong tree.
First of all, if you think either city uses it wrong, you can make your complaints to them. I'm sure they will kindly accept your opinion.
Besides, I also suggest "environmental sanitation," but people have their own freedom to choose whatever the pronoun they want, be it hygiene, health, sanitation, or environment and sanitation. I'm just making possible suggestions, though.
Beyond that, there is no telling which one is correct. Sanitation is not the one and only subject in the issue of environment, nor is it exclusively related to environment. You don't know whether Guangzou city takes environment and sanitation as two separate fields or one issue unless you ask the relevant authorities.

jyuan_us Apr 2, 2017:

jarv95888 I don't think you understood my points. Please read my posts more carefully before putting up any comment. Also, please try to make comments to the point.

jarv95888 Apr 2, 2017:

You're barking up the wrong tree.

jyuan_us Apr 2, 2017:

jarv95888 it is not either way. One of them must be wrong.

jarv95888 Apr 2, 2017:

Either way. It's from Guangzhou city's official website.
The official site of Shanghai uses "environmental sanitation", though.

jyuan_us Apr 2, 2017:

@jarv95888 I don't think the translation on the link you provided is correct, although it is the official website of the city."环境卫生" is one word, which means "Environmental Sanitation", instead of "Environment and Sanitation".

jarv95888 Apr 2, 2017:

environmental sanitation ... city appearance Since 市容环境卫生管理局 is translated as "Bureau of City Appearance, Environment and Sanitation," to honor the writer's choice literally, chym77's suggestion may seem the best one.

http://www.ichacha.net/广州市市容环境卫生局.html
http://www.guangzhou.gov.cn/node_646/node_647/2005-06/111866...
http://www.wangluofanyi.com/Article.asp?id=401

jarv95888 Apr 2, 2017:

illogic categorization The list includes physical offices, plan, and abstract ideas, all of which share the same verb "coordinate" as its nouns.
The "环卫" might be a shortened form for "市容环境卫生管理局" as "消防" is for "消防局." If it is, "市容" is probably more of an abstract idea, just like "周边居民的关系," than a department.

jyuan_us Apr 2, 2017:

"市" is not even "city", see below 金乡县市容环境卫生管理局
www.jxsrhwj.com/
县市容环卫局：“四个注重”推进党风政风建设; 03-27. 县市容环卫局加强考核管理巩固提升市容环境; 03-27. 关爱环卫工人勿忘举手之劳; 03-27. 金乡县市容环卫局多措 ..