Nov 25, 2022 20:00
1 yr ago
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Spanish term
por lo que hay
Spanish to English
Other
Philosophy
Academic
Same sentence as in previous query. Academic text on ageing, longevity, lifespan, etc.
"De hecho, la chispa del filosofar se remonta al primer asombro por lo que hay, y dicho maravillarse se convierte en regulador existencial y espiritual de la persona."
The reason I am hesitating is because I instinctively want to build 'exist(s)', or similar, into "por lo que hay" but it is already in the sentence and also, further down:
"Este mundo que nos ha tocado rebosa de misterio; sin embargo, pese a su carácter absolutamente indescifrable, contingente y «arbitrario», no nos queda más remedio que aceptar sus condiciones y sus leyes, tal como se implementan en la Tierra, que representa nuestra única posibilidad de vida. La presencia terrenal se vive como algo totalmente ininteligible y a la vez familiar, como algo gratuito y a la vez absoluto. Esta «esquizofrenia» refleja con elocuencia la dimensión profundamente metafísica de la existencia, cuyo olvido genera la mayor entre las anomalías humanas que radica en el no maravillarse ante ella y por extensión en degradarla de misterio a «problema» y exigir inmediatamente «solución». "
So I think that if the author had wanted to build existir into the Spanish for lo que hay, he would have.
"De hecho, la chispa del filosofar se remonta al primer asombro por lo que hay, y dicho maravillarse se convierte en regulador existencial y espiritual de la persona."
The reason I am hesitating is because I instinctively want to build 'exist(s)', or similar, into "por lo que hay" but it is already in the sentence and also, further down:
"Este mundo que nos ha tocado rebosa de misterio; sin embargo, pese a su carácter absolutamente indescifrable, contingente y «arbitrario», no nos queda más remedio que aceptar sus condiciones y sus leyes, tal como se implementan en la Tierra, que representa nuestra única posibilidad de vida. La presencia terrenal se vive como algo totalmente ininteligible y a la vez familiar, como algo gratuito y a la vez absoluto. Esta «esquizofrenia» refleja con elocuencia la dimensión profundamente metafísica de la existencia, cuyo olvido genera la mayor entre las anomalías humanas que radica en el no maravillarse ante ella y por extensión en degradarla de misterio a «problema» y exigir inmediatamente «solución». "
So I think that if the author had wanted to build existir into the Spanish for lo que hay, he would have.
Proposed translations
(English)
3 +4 | at what there is | Adoración Bodoque Martínez |
Proposed translations
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19 mins
Selected
at what there is
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/facts/
“It is locutions of this second sort that philosophers have often employed in order to claim (or deny) that facts are part of the inventory of what there is, and play an important role in semantics, ontology, metaphysics, epistemology and the philosophy of mind.”
https://philpapers.org/rec/QUIOWT-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9RJFBcb00
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Note added at 31 mins (2022-11-25 20:31:51 GMT)
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https://philarchive.org/archive/CHIIAL-2
"3 Jackson (1998: 4): ‘Metaphysics is about what there is and what it is like."
"La metafísica trata sobre lo que existe y sobre cómo es. Pero no se ocupa de
cualquier antigua lista de la compra acerca de lo que hay y de cómo es."
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Note added at 39 mins (2022-11-25 20:40:09 GMT)
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https://academic.oup.com/book/39081
"Absence and Nothing: The Philosophy of What There is Not"
“It is locutions of this second sort that philosophers have often employed in order to claim (or deny) that facts are part of the inventory of what there is, and play an important role in semantics, ontology, metaphysics, epistemology and the philosophy of mind.”
https://philpapers.org/rec/QUIOWT-7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx9RJFBcb00
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Note added at 31 mins (2022-11-25 20:31:51 GMT)
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https://philarchive.org/archive/CHIIAL-2
"3 Jackson (1998: 4): ‘Metaphysics is about what there is and what it is like."
"La metafísica trata sobre lo que existe y sobre cómo es. Pero no se ocupa de
cualquier antigua lista de la compra acerca de lo que hay y de cómo es."
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Note added at 39 mins (2022-11-25 20:40:09 GMT)
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https://academic.oup.com/book/39081
"Absence and Nothing: The Philosophy of What There is Not"
Note from asker:
Thank you so much for this. That's v interesting. The English version I was given (I am revising an English text with recourse to the Spanish) has "at what is there" and I assumed it was a "Spanish-ism"... |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
William Hepner
: I was also thinking "at what is" without the there, since I think it sounds more natural, but that might be just a preference//Yes that's quite reasonable. It's the always the delicate tug-of-war between source lang. meaning and target lang. style.
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Thank you very much, William. Although, I think "lo que hay" may be a translation from the English "what there is". Plus, I feel that "at what is" should be "por lo que es".//Yes, I agree. But, in Philosophy, I think you have to be particularly accurate.
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philgoddard
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Thank you, Phil.
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agree |
Jessica Crotti
29 mins
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Thank you, Jessica.
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James A. Walsh
1 day 3 hrs
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Thank you, James.
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