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Jul 13, 2019 17:51
4 yrs ago
French term

TA qui peine à décrocher

French to English Medical Medical (general) Nursing notes
Hi,

The paragraph is the following:
TA qui peine à décrocher
si TA passe sous 13 arret de la CPAP

Thanks

Joanna
Proposed translations (English)
2 +1 Blood pressure which is hard to measure
5 Arterial blood pressure difficult to decrease
5 Refractory/Resistant/Difficult-to-control blood pressure
3 a blood pressure level that is difficult to slow down/that subsides with difficulty
3 BP hard to control

Discussion

Anais Devenish Jul 18, 2019:
difficulty in attracting qui peine à décrocher = difficulty in attracting

Yes, hard to get.
I am not sure what TA is, sorry.
Cheers,
Anais
Drmanu49 Jul 14, 2019:
Sorry to disagree with hard to get, but that would be que l'on a de la peine à décrocher. Here the subject is TA and décrocher means to let go or release. The "release" in this case is definitely a decrease from a permanent high level. And it is coherent stop the CPAP once the BP has gone down. Peiner à décrocher "quelque chose" is having a hard time to get a degree for example. But in that case quelque chose is the object and not the subject.
Michael Barnett Jul 14, 2019:
TA qui peine à décrocher = Hard to get Hi translators!
I was not previously familiar with this French idiom, but Google translates it as "hard to get". Below I have a few examples of it being used.

It appears that the paragraph to be translated is advice to nurses about what to do if she is having difficulty obtaining (measuring) the blood pressure. We all know that CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure) can lower the blood pressure (well, at least I know). So, if the BP is under 130, turn off the CPAP machine. The blood pressure will rise and it may be easier to measure.

https://www.pressreader.com/
https://lactualite.com/actualites/50-ans-de-lexpo-67-levenem...
https://quebec.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/09/17/immigration-et-e...

Proposed translations

+1
8 hrs
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Blood pressure which is hard to measure

See discussion.
I usually have +5 level of confidence, but as mentioned above, I was not previously familiar with this French idiom.

It seems to make sense with the rest of the paragraph. CPAP lowers BP, and 130 is quite acceptable blood pressure, so why would the nurse be instructed to stop the CPAP if the heading meant that the blood pressure was difficult to lower?
Peer comment(s):
agree Rachel Fell : Think a doctor's most likely to be right.
8 days
Thanks Rachel :-)
agree liz askew
9 days
Thanks Liz. I value your opinion. And Rachel's of course.
disagree Drmanu49 : Sorry Michael but that cannot be right. ALl the people I have spoken with at CHU agree that it is a rather common way of saying "remaining persistently high".
13 days
I appreciate your input Manu. You could be right.
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45 mins

a blood pressure level that is difficult to slow down/that subsides with difficulty

I think the main difficulty here is with the use of "décrocher", which seems unusual in this context, but can be guessed at.

The way I understand it is close to this (possible) interpretation:
https://qc.croixbleue.ca/assurance-sante/astuces-sante/561-c...
Décrocher : à une époque où nous sommes continuellement branchés, il est important de décrocher de la technologie de temps à autre pour prendre une pause mentale. Éteignez votre téléphone et votre ordinateur et prenez le temps de vous détendre sans être interrompu.

> to let go, slow down, fall back
> (hence) weaken, subside, decline, drop

(EN) CPAP, Continuous positive airway pressure [device] = (FR) PPC, [appareil à] pression positive continue
(FR) TA, tension artérielle = (EN) BP, blood pressure

> une tension artérielle qui peine à décrocher = a blood pressure level that is difficult to slow down/that subsides with difficulty

si TA passe sous 13 arret de la CPAP
> if blood pressure falls under 13, then the CPAP device will [automatically] stop.
Peer comment(s):
agree José Patrício : décrocher [être distancé] to get left behind [fall behind] - https://enfr.dict.cc/?s=décrocher
35 mins
neutral Drmanu49 : You don't "slow down a level"
3 hrs
disagree Michael Barnett : Sorry Nathalie, but I'm not certain that you got the meaning correctly here, and even if you did, the wording is non-idiomatic in English medical terminology. We say "control" BP, "reduce" BP, "lower" BP, but never "slow down" or "subside" BP.
6 hrs
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Arterial blood pressure difficult to decrease

6 simple tips to reduce your blood pressure - Harvard Health
https://www.health.harvard.edu/.../6-simple-tips-to-reduce-y...

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1 mars 2018 - If you are in this 130/80 range, reducing your blood pressure can help ... "It is very difficult to lower dietary sodium without reading labels, unless ...

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or persistently high arterial blood pressure

Wellness Module 1 Flashcards | Quizlet
https://quizlet.com/19042243/wellness-module-1-flash-cards/

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Persistently high arterial blood pressure; it may have no known cause (essential, idiopathic, or primary h.) or may be associated with other diseases (secondary ...


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La PA peine à décrocher = ABP remains persistently high or "has difficulty in lowering"
Peer comment(s):
neutral Michael Barnett : You could well be correct Manu. I invite further comment.//I should sick to high confidence translations. ;-)
3 hrs
Comment made Michael. I dont often use a 5 level of confidence.
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1 day 20 hrs

BP hard to control

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2 days 4 hrs

Refractory/Resistant/Difficult-to-control blood pressure

Il s'agit ici d'une hypertension qui resiste au traitement médical
Example sentence:

Formal studies of the management of resistant or difficult-to-control hypertension are few, and strategies are based largely on observational data from specialty clinics.

Reference:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMcp041698

Peer comment(s):
neutral liz askew : But the text doesn't mention hypertension
9 hrs
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