Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión
English translation:
rephrase the whole sentence
Added to glossary by
Lydianette Soza
Nov 30, 2016 22:07
7 yrs ago
Spanish term
Belize
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión
Spanish to English
Other
International Org/Dev/Coop
Project report
Source text:
En el proyecto de salud en coordinación con el Departamento de Salud y liderazgo comunitario se fortalecieron capacidades locales de 22 brigadistas de salud que dan seguimiento en las comunidades como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión acerca de la importancia de las buenas prácticas de salud, jornadas de higiene, lo que tiene como fin la prevención de enfermedades en niños.
My try:
The Health project in coordination with the Deparment of Health and with community leaders managed to build local capacities of 22 health promoters who follow up communities in their capacity of facilitators of spaces to reflect on the importance of good health practices, hygiene campaigns which purpose is preventing childhood illnesses.
Alguna sugerencia.
En el proyecto de salud en coordinación con el Departamento de Salud y liderazgo comunitario se fortalecieron capacidades locales de 22 brigadistas de salud que dan seguimiento en las comunidades como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión acerca de la importancia de las buenas prácticas de salud, jornadas de higiene, lo que tiene como fin la prevención de enfermedades en niños.
My try:
The Health project in coordination with the Deparment of Health and with community leaders managed to build local capacities of 22 health promoters who follow up communities in their capacity of facilitators of spaces to reflect on the importance of good health practices, hygiene campaigns which purpose is preventing childhood illnesses.
Alguna sugerencia.
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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1 hr
Jennifer Levey
Chile
Chile
Native in English
Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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24
Selected
rephrase the whole sentence
Many texts in the “development” field are erudite – almost to the point of being meaninglessness. It helps to cut through the verbiage and discover what is really happening ‘on the ground’. It does no harm in these circumstances to get away from the terms of the ST and explain, rather than just translating.
The ST is simply describing an instance of the classic “training the trainers” principle*, which has been at the heart of development in the emerging economies (ex 'third world') since well before I was a volunteer worker (in Central America) in 1975. It will help the ST author’s cause if the translation can get past the erudite “medium” and instead clearly transmit the message.
For example (for the entire sentence):
The Health project, in conjunction with the Department of Health and community leaders, strengthened the skills of 22 local health promoters. These people are now passing on their skills to the communities through the organization of hygiene sessions where local people can become (or ‘be made’) more aware of the importance of good health practices, all with a view to preventing childhood illnesses.
* https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/give_a_man_a_fish_and_you_fee...
The ST is simply describing an instance of the classic “training the trainers” principle*, which has been at the heart of development in the emerging economies (ex 'third world') since well before I was a volunteer worker (in Central America) in 1975. It will help the ST author’s cause if the translation can get past the erudite “medium” and instead clearly transmit the message.
For example (for the entire sentence):
The Health project, in conjunction with the Department of Health and community leaders, strengthened the skills of 22 local health promoters. These people are now passing on their skills to the communities through the organization of hygiene sessions where local people can become (or ‘be made’) more aware of the importance of good health practices, all with a view to preventing childhood illnesses.
* https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/give_a_man_a_fish_and_you_fee...
Peer comment(s):
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lorenab23
: I agree, the whole sentence needs rephrasing and breaking it in 2 is a great idea!
1 hr
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Andy Watkinson
2 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
13 mins
David Hollywood
Native in English
Works in field
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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104
who give pointers/advice on developing a sound/healthy attitute to good health practices
to get the ball rolling
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or: act as facilitators in giving/providing pointers on the importance of good health practices
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should read "attitude" of course
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I would shy away from "spaces"
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there are so many ways to render this, so let's see what else comes up
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Note added at 15 mins (2016-11-30 22:23:06 GMT)
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or: act as facilitators in giving/providing pointers on the importance of good health practices
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Note added at 17 mins (2016-11-30 22:25:02 GMT)
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should read "attitude" of course
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Note added at 18 mins (2016-11-30 22:26:09 GMT)
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I would shy away from "spaces"
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Note added at 19 mins (2016-11-30 22:27:23 GMT)
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there are so many ways to render this, so let's see what else comes up
Note from asker:
| Thanks David :) |
+1
28 mins
Ana Vozone
Specializes in field
Will do!
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: European/Portugal) 
Works in: English to Portuguese, French to Portuguese, German to Portuguese, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
32
as facilitators of focus groups
A suggestion.
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facilitators of focus groups on the importance....
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facilitators of focus groups on the importance....
Example sentence:
Once facilitators of focus groups appreciate this epistemology they can set up a climate in which people feel part of a research process of relational discussion around issues raised. This requires an effort on the part of ...
To achieve such outcomes however, assumes that the facilitators of focus groups are aware of some of the practical and ethical problems that can arise with this approach to data collection
Peer comment(s):
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AllegroTrans
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Muriel Vasconcellos
: 'Focus group' has a very specific meaning. They are used in studies that collect data on community opinions, usually before implementing a change or a new product or project. It's a technical term used in research. I don't know where the 'focus' comes fro
46 mins
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I felt that "espacios" conveyed an idea of being "limited", restricted, and that is why I suggested the word "focus"...
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1 hr
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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408
as facilitators of discussion groups
Definition:
A discussion group is a group of individuals with similar interest who gather either formally or informally to bring up ideas, solve problems or give comments. The major approaches are in person, via conference call or website.
Discussion group - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_group
It's not the same as a focus group, which is used as a research tool.
A discussion group is a group of individuals with similar interest who gather either formally or informally to bring up ideas, solve problems or give comments. The major approaches are in person, via conference call or website.
Discussion group - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_group
It's not the same as a focus group, which is used as a research tool.
1 hr
Barbara Cochran, MFA
United States
United States
Native in English
Works in field
United States
Laudable Lady Linguist
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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16
as facilitators of reflection (about)
I don't think that the word "espacios" has to be a part of the English-language rendition, except that it can be inferred.
1 hr
James A. Walsh
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
Spain
A cut above the rest in translation...
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK, Irish) , Spanish (Variants: Standard-Spain, Latin American)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
64
Spanish term (edited):
como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión acerca
as facilitators of spaces to reflect on
I think your idea is spot on with the literal “spaces to reflect on”, however, it’s a rather long sentence, so I think you need to try to make it seem a little less long somehow in English.
Also, a lot depends on how you translate “dan seguimiento en”.
Suggestion:
“En el proyecto de salud en coordinación con el Departamento de Salud y liderazgo comunitario se fortalecieron capacidades locales de 22 brigadistas de salud que dan seguimiento en las comunidades como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión acerca de la importancia de las buenas prácticas de salud, jornadas de higiene, lo que tiene como fin la prevención de enfermedades en niños.”
“In coordination with the Department of Health and community leaders, the health project has strengthened the local capacities of 22 health promoters who provide ongoing support to communities as facilitators of spaces to reflect on the importance of good health practices, as well as hygiene campaigns, for the purposes of childhood disease prevention.”
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Add "all" to that last bit for smoother flow. As in:
"[...] as well as hygiene campaigns, all for the purposes of childhood disease prevention.” (just flows better)
Also, a lot depends on how you translate “dan seguimiento en”.
Suggestion:
“En el proyecto de salud en coordinación con el Departamento de Salud y liderazgo comunitario se fortalecieron capacidades locales de 22 brigadistas de salud que dan seguimiento en las comunidades como facilitadores de espacios de reflexión acerca de la importancia de las buenas prácticas de salud, jornadas de higiene, lo que tiene como fin la prevención de enfermedades en niños.”
“In coordination with the Department of Health and community leaders, the health project has strengthened the local capacities of 22 health promoters who provide ongoing support to communities as facilitators of spaces to reflect on the importance of good health practices, as well as hygiene campaigns, for the purposes of childhood disease prevention.”
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Note added at 2 hrs (2016-12-01 00:36:32 GMT)
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Add "all" to that last bit for smoother flow. As in:
"[...] as well as hygiene campaigns, all for the purposes of childhood disease prevention.” (just flows better)
Discussion
'Working with the Department of Health and community leaders, the Health Project built up local capacity by strengthening the skills of 22 local health brigade workers ...'
Notice that there's a "squint" in the Spanish: They speak of building local capacity and improving the skills of the health brigade workers--two separate thoughts squished into one. So you really need to add a separate verb for each, using a paraphrase in the second instance. In general, we tend to think of 'capacity building' as referring to an institution rather than individual persons--even if it's about upgrading or training individuals.
You write "... [they] managed to build ..." That expression has a negative connotation which is not apparent in the ST. Of course, the task may have been very difficult, but the ST only says what was achieved, without suggesting how easy/difficult it was.