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Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

nose was broken up close

English answer:

(he could see clearly) his nose was broken once he got close enough

Added to glossary by Yvonne Gallagher
Oct 16, 2016 09:20
7 yrs ago
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English term

nose was broken up close

English Art/Literary Other term
The sentence like this:" Bewildered, he made his way over to Simmons and Edmunds, whose nose was clearly broken up close."

What does "nose was broken up close" mean here?
Responses
4 +3 (he could see clearly) his nose was broken once he got close enough
3 high-level nasal fracture
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Oct 21, 2016 12:31: Yvonne Gallagher Created KOG entry

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Discussion

airmailrpl Oct 16, 2016:
so whose nose is broken ??
philgoddard Oct 16, 2016:
No, of course not. "Nose was" is the singular form. If it were both of them, it would say "noses were".
airmailrpl Oct 16, 2016:
whose nose is broken ?? Simmons and Edmunds ??
Sheila Wilson Oct 16, 2016:
Not a typo, but not right Phil's suggestion has to be what's meant, but it's definitely not what's said. I can't think of anything close enough to be a typo. Perhaps it's an edit that got messed up?
TonyTK Oct 16, 2016:
Like Phil says, ... ... you wouldn't necessarily notice it from further away, but as you get closer you can clearly see he has a broken nose.
macky (asker) Oct 16, 2016:
On the flipchart in the meeting room, two additional names had been added to the list of dead victims, and Wolf found a note from Finlay waiting on his desk asking him to meet him at the Irish embassy in Belgravia once he had ‘finished at the shrink’s’. They were to take charge of Andrew Ford’s protection there, which was mildly vexing because Wolf distinctly remembered leaving Ford in South Wales and driving away.
Bewildered, he made his way over to Simmons and Edmunds, whose nose was clearly broken up close.
‘Morning,’ he said casually. ‘So, what did I miss?’
philgoddard Oct 16, 2016:
I agree there are some words missing. It could mean "when you looked from up close, you could see his nose was broken".
Sheila Wilson Oct 16, 2016:
Means nothing at all It sounds incomplete. Can you give more context e.g. the sentences around it?

Responses

+3
4 hrs
English term (edited): nose was broken [FROM] up close
Selected

(he could see clearly) his nose was broken once he got close enough

yes, the phrase as written is written in a shorthand but I think it makes sense to assume just one word FROM is missing so is a typo.

But to make it easier to understand you can translate using Phil's rendering as in discussion or as I've put above

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/up close


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Note added at 4 hrs (2016-10-16 13:47:39 GMT)
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and obviously it's Edmunds' nose which is broken

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Note added at 5 days (2016-10-21 12:30:54 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to have helped
Peer comment(s):
agree Tina Vonhof (X)
2 hrs
Thank you!
agree Lingua 5B : yes, probably an omission
3 hrs
Thank you:-)
agree Denise Leitao
5 hrs
Thank you:-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for help!"
1 day 5 hrs

high-level nasal fracture

"Up close" could mean close to the skull, i.e. near the top of the nose.

http://www.medindia.net/patients/patientinfo/broken-nose.htm
"... nasal fractures are commonly observed in patients who have undergone plastic surgery. The nasal fractures in such patients have been classified based on the site of the fracture such as -

• Type I (at the higher level of the nasal bones),
• Type II (at the lower level of the nasal bones),
• and type III (fractures in the total nasal bone)."

https://www.researchgate.net/.../236947277_New_nasal_fractur...
categories: patients with fractures in the high level (type I), patients with fractures in the low level (type II), and patients with fractures throughout. the entire nasal ...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Sheila Wilson : It's the other possibility of course, but the text seems to be a crime novel, where that level of medical detail seems unlikely // Absolutely agree. Either very poor writing or zero re-reading of a messed-up edit
1 hr
Not very well written one though, if it means: up close, it was clear his nose was broken!
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