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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

brique plâtrière

English translation:

hollow partition brick

Added to glossary by philgoddard
Dec 11, 2012 21:40
11 yrs ago
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French term

brique plâtrière

French to English Tech/Engineering Construction / Civil Engineering Walls
This is from a brochure for a timber interior wall cladding system. It consists of slats attached to a metal frame which is itself attached to the wall.

Les lames de XX [product name] allient ainsi esthétique, performance et solution sèche. En effet, grâce au système à ossature métallique, le XX est une solution propre en comparaison à la pose de la brique plâtrière ou des carreaux de plâtres. Ce revêtement convient parfaitement pour la rénovation ou l’aménagement d’un habitat existant.

Here's a picture of one:
http://www.bretagne-materiaux.fr/notre-offre/briques-platrie...

I've tried all kinds of sources and guesses, to no avail. We had this question in French to Danish, but no one answered.

Thanks!
Proposed translations (English)
2 +2 hollow partition brick
5 plastered clay bricks
3 huridies
2 structural clay tile
1 facing pot brick

Discussion

Miranda Joubioux (X) Dec 12, 2012:
When we built our house, I was intrigued by the use of these bricks for the interior partitions. They have their inconveniences and their advantages. One thing that is really good is the ease with which you can move sockets, radiators and stuff like that. They can be filled with insulation if doubled up. I'm not actually sure they are used in the UK.
chris collister Dec 12, 2012:
size matters The "brique plâtrière" appears to be distinct from the usual (structural) "brique alvéolaire" in terms of the number of cells, usually just one, sometimes two. I would hesitate to call a 5cm thick wall structural, but I have certainly seen partitions made with this stuff. It's very easy to put up, but mice love its convenient passages and its acoustic and thermal performance is derisory. Google images shows many examples.
Marco Solinas Dec 11, 2012:
Facing bricks? You can find nomerous references that call the "brique plâtrière" either "hollow brick" or "partition wall brick." However, your description clearly indicates that these bricks are a form of wall covering, or "facing bricks." Unfortunately, the French term for "facing brick" is "brique de parement." It is always possible that this is what the writer meant.
philgoddard (asker) Dec 11, 2012:
For what it's worth Carreaux de plâtre, mentioned later in the sentence, is discussed here:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/architecture/300...

Proposed translations

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hollow partition brick

Just an idea, but it seems to me that we could be talking about "hollow partition bricks". Since these are not used for load-bearing walls, they could, potentially, be used as facing.
Reference:

http://www.google.com/patents/US178988

Peer comment(s):
agree cc in nyc : I like it, though it doesn't have much presence on the Web.
38 mins
Yes, "hollow brick" or "hollow block" is admittedly used far more commonly. I suppose this leaves open the question of their potential use.
agree Miranda Joubioux (X) : hollow clay brick/partition block is in Dictionnaire du Génie civil (Serge Eric Bon)
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structural clay tile

I don't really know anything about this, but the Wiki for "structural clay tile" sounds like the product in question:
Structural clay tile describes a category of burned-clay building materials used to construct the walls of buildings and in structural fireproofing. Also called building tile, structural terra cotta or hollow tile, the material is an extruded clay shape with substantial depth that allows it to be laid in the same manner as other clay or concrete masonry. In North America it was chiefly used during the late 19th and early 20th centuries, and continues to be used in Europe to build fire-resistant walls and partitions. [...]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_clay_tile

I also Google-Imaged "structural clay tile" (with quote marks) and was frankly surprised when it came back with some results, one of which led me to the following:

McGraw-Hill Science & Technology Dictionary:
structural clay tile
Home > Library > Science > Sci-Tech Dictionary
(′strək·chə·rəl ′klā ′tīl)
(materials) Hollow burned-clay masonry unit with parallel cells used as facing tile, load-bearing tile, partition tile, fireproofing tile, furring tile, floor tile, and header tile.
http://www.answers.com/topic/structural-clay-tile
This webpage also has a couple of images of "structural clay tile units." ;-)

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BTW, I went down this path after finding the following bilingual offering (from the Canadians):

Certains éléments du bâtiment, par exemple les cloisons en brique plâtrière servant de remplissage dans les bâtiments à ossature, ne sont pas ductiles; ils peuvent se disloquer soudainement et de manière explosive en libérant de l’énergie, ce qui favorise l’effondrement des bâtiments.
http://archive.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/fra/idp/irc/sc/ctus-n26.html

Some building components, such as clay-tile partitions in frame structures, have no ductility and may fail suddenly and explosively, releasing energy, which promotes collapse of the building.
http://archive.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/eng/ibp/irc/ctus/ctus-n26.html
Note from asker:
Thanks, cc. This would have been a good choice too, but I went with the most popular answer.
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13 hrs

plastered clay bricks

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http://www.archiexpo.com/architecture-design-manufacturer/pl...

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Note added at 13 heures (2012-12-12 11:30:07 GMT)
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ties up with your http://www.bretagne-materiaux.fr/notre-offre/briques-platrie...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : They may be a kind of brick intended for plastering, but I think it is a bit of a misnomer to say 'plastered' / Sadly, it's a poorly-translated FR site :-(
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I agree, but that Archiexpo site looks serious and there is visual confirmation.
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facing pot brick

Phil, I have to put a low confidence level, as I don't know if this is the 'official' term, but it's certainly what a builder friend of mine calls them over here.

Note that there are all sorts of 'pot bricks', but the term is especially used to refer to the hollow kind so common over here in FR, but usually of a 'fatter' cross-section; that's why I suggest adding the term 'facing' to indicate this thinner variety, which can be used for partition walls, but alos, bizarrely, for ceilings! The ceilings in my own house are made like this.

I am not aware if this kind / format of brick is used at all in the UK, so I somehow doubt if it has a 'proper' name at all... though you might try phoning a builder's merchant or brick manufacturer!

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Well, no, I'm not sure! Like I say, this is a term I've heard orally from an old builder; certainly 'pot' correctly describes the terracotta type material, which is quite different from 'normal' bricks.

However, I did find this Wikipedia illustration of one size and shape of a particular type of 'clay block' — the main article specifically explains that it is called a 'block' when it is hollow with cavities like this (just like your ones), and it also explains they are available in a wide range of sizes, including thin ones (like yours)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Porotherm_style_clay_block...

Here's the main article that comes from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick

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I think 'clay' means the same as 'pot', which refers to the fact that it is a pure clay 'terracotta', rather than a sand/clay mix as for 'normal' bricks; so it may just be that 'pot' is the old-fashioned or informal builders' term.

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Taking a sort of amalgam of several other answers, I reckon 'hollow clay block' might be a good solution here.

'hollow' is an important feature of its design

'clay' to clearly indicate the 'terracotta' type material, which is fundamental to this type of component

'block' to indicate it has a shape that is in some way different from a standard 'brick-shape'.
Note from asker:
Thanks! I know Tony M's 1 is equivalent to anyone else's 4, but I can't find any references to "pot bricks". Are you sure?
That's looking more like it! Thanks very much.
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huridies

Out of interest I went looking to see whether I could find UK sites selling these.
I came up with
http://jjtilesdecors.com/interl.html

I've never heard this term before

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Note added at 16 hrs (2012-12-12 13:50:03 GMT)
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Since I can no longer post a reference, you might be interested in this link
http://theconstructor.org/building/types-of-partition-walls/...

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Note added at 19 hrs (2012-12-12 17:07:55 GMT)
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Today, I'm finding all sorts of interesting links like this one :
http://visual.merriam-webster.com/house/do-it-yourself/basic...

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Note added at 19 hrs (2012-12-12 17:10:35 GMT)
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Not to mention this one: http://architectural-world.blogspot.fr/2008/04/partitions.ht...
Some fascinating stuff in there!

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and how about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_clay_tile
That picture of the wiring is exactly what I saw when our house was being wired!
Note from asker:
How fascinating! I feel like emailing the company to see where this word comes from.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Tony M : Sadly, that's an Indian site, and I think this is a misnomer; I'm even wondering if it isn't an Indian-anglicized version of the FR 'hourdis'?!
11 mins
So it is. That'll teach me not to look at the contact! :-) I was surprised to find it I must admit
neutral chris collister : Hindustan Tiles- though there are other Indian supplies of "huridies". But not mainstream EN terminology, alas
1 hr
Indeed!
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