Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
Hércules golpeando a las fieras
English translation:
fighting the wild animals
Added to glossary by
kittilina
Nov 2, 2010 14:54
13 yrs ago
Spanish term
Hércules golpeando a las fieras
Spanish to English
Art/Literary
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting
Francisco de Goya
This is from a description of a painting from a series by Goya called 'La captura del bandido “Maragato” por fray Pedro de Zaldivia'.
I am wondering which of Hercules' exploits the above phrase refers to, if any, since during his labours he vanquished many beasts. Does anyone know/have an opinion on whether this is likely to be referring to any one set of animals in particular from the labours, or perhaps one of the incidents that happened along the way? Or is this perhaps some general vagueness on the part of the author? Is anyone familiar with this as some traditional scene with a general common title which might be depicted in art that the author could be referencing which shows Heracles/Hercules beating wild animals, perhaps?
Your opinions on the matter would be gratefully received, since I am not entirely sure what the author is referring to here, and since Hercules used his club quite a lot, I am unsure which occasion they might be thinking of.
More context below. UK Eng please. Thanks in advance.
El cuarto episodio del ciclo marca el comienzo del declive del “Maragato”. Cuando el bandido trata de alcanzar las escopetas del caballo, fray Pedro da la vuelta al fusil y se dispone a golpear a su enemigo con la culata. El bandido, caído al suelo, mira asustado a fray Pedro, cuyo rostro pintado por Goya refleja la duda y el conflicto interior de quien no está del todo convencido de sus actos. Finalmente, el monje reflexionó y decidió no golpear al malhechor sino al caballo, que salió espantado.
Se ha señalado que la postura del fraile está inspirada en las figuras clásicas de ***Hércules golpeando a las fieras***. Este es el momento en que mejor se combinan la humildad que fray Pedro mostró al llegar a la casa tomada por el bandido, y la ira de Dios que llevaba dentro, de la que se sirvió para capturarle, tal y como se pude leer en el folletín.
I am wondering which of Hercules' exploits the above phrase refers to, if any, since during his labours he vanquished many beasts. Does anyone know/have an opinion on whether this is likely to be referring to any one set of animals in particular from the labours, or perhaps one of the incidents that happened along the way? Or is this perhaps some general vagueness on the part of the author? Is anyone familiar with this as some traditional scene with a general common title which might be depicted in art that the author could be referencing which shows Heracles/Hercules beating wild animals, perhaps?
Your opinions on the matter would be gratefully received, since I am not entirely sure what the author is referring to here, and since Hercules used his club quite a lot, I am unsure which occasion they might be thinking of.
More context below. UK Eng please. Thanks in advance.
El cuarto episodio del ciclo marca el comienzo del declive del “Maragato”. Cuando el bandido trata de alcanzar las escopetas del caballo, fray Pedro da la vuelta al fusil y se dispone a golpear a su enemigo con la culata. El bandido, caído al suelo, mira asustado a fray Pedro, cuyo rostro pintado por Goya refleja la duda y el conflicto interior de quien no está del todo convencido de sus actos. Finalmente, el monje reflexionó y decidió no golpear al malhechor sino al caballo, que salió espantado.
Se ha señalado que la postura del fraile está inspirada en las figuras clásicas de ***Hércules golpeando a las fieras***. Este es el momento en que mejor se combinan la humildad que fray Pedro mostró al llegar a la casa tomada por el bandido, y la ira de Dios que llevaba dentro, de la que se sirvió para capturarle, tal y como se pude leer en el folletín.
Proposed translations
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References
Nemean Lion | meirs |
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Nov 14, 2010 18:25: kittilina Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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fighting the wild animals
In the legend, he actually fought and captured a wild lion and a wild boar. See link for the story.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "I used this general answer in the end - thanks everyone for the ideas. :)"
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Hercules fighting the lion(s)
Relief - Small - Hercules Fighting the Lion Wall Relief Art ...
Hercules tracked down the beast and cornered it in a cave. Shown on this wall hanging is Hercules ... Home > WALL DECOR > Relief - Small > Hercules Fighting the Lion Wall
Hercules tracked down the beast and cornered it in a cave. Shown on this wall hanging is Hercules ... Home > WALL DECOR > Relief - Small > Hercules Fighting the Lion Wall
Note from asker:
Hi, this was my first thought, but the original is plural. :/ |
59 mins
Hercules clubbing beasts
Fantastical Creatures and Magical Beasts - Google Books Result
Shannon Knudsen - 2009 - Juvenile Nonfiction - 48 pages
As Hercules clubbed off another head of the Hydra, Iolaus used the torch to burn ... Hercules clubbed it off the Hydra's body, but the head remained alive. ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0822599872...
Shannon Knudsen - 2009 - Juvenile Nonfiction - 48 pages
As Hercules clubbed off another head of the Hydra, Iolaus used the torch to burn ... Hercules clubbed it off the Hydra's body, but the head remained alive. ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0822599872...
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Heracles shown club raised / clubbing beasts
His exploits included tackling a variety of animals (centaurs, stags etc) as well as lions so might be safer to say beasts. The 'classic' posture shown is club raised ready to strike
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Hercules battling with the beasts
that's how I'd say it
...clashing
...clashing
Reference comments
16 mins
Reference:
Nemean Lion
An educated guess - and it's about beasts rather than wild animals
Reference:
Note from asker:
Hi - this was my first thought, but the original is plural. By the way, a beast IS a wild animal, given the general definition of the former... I wonder if the author might be referring to the beasts he fought in general... |
Discussion
HTH.
beatriz souza
(...) Interpretation of The Twelve Labors of Hercules
The twelve labors of Hercules all involve the taming, capture, cleaning (the cleaning of the Augean Stables), or slaying of wild beasts. Taken in this context the labor of taking Hippolyte's girdle stands out. The myth serves not only to explain (according to the Greeks), why there were no Amazons in the Thermiscrya region of the Anatolia peninsula, but also show the unnatural or dangerous side to a woman not bound by the traditions of Ancient Greece. In a sense, a woman who was not bound by marriage or the customs of Greece was dangerous. (...)
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/aegean/amazons/amazon...
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"The 12 labors are referred to as the Nemean Lion, Lernean Hydra, Cerynitian Hind, Erymanthian Boar, Stables of Augeas, Stymphalian Birds, Cretan Bulls, Mares of Diomedes, Belt of Hippolyte, Cattle of Geryon, Apples of Hesperides, and the Hound of Hades."
(own glossary)
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http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/HeraclesGallery.html
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/DHeraclesDiomedes.ht...