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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

integrar en un avion

English translation:

participate in the building of a plane

Added to glossary by patyjs
Oct 27, 2010 00:28
13 yrs ago
Spanish term

integrar en un avion

Spanish to English Social Sciences Advertising / Public Relations
This is from a press release about an aircraft manufacturer. Thanks!

Con estas nuevas instalaciones de XXX, se alcanza una de las principales metas establecidas en el Mapa de Ruta del Sector Aeroespacial de México (Plan de Vuelo Nacional): integrar en un avión con alto contenido de valor nacional.
Proposed translations (English)
3 +4 participate in the building of a plane with a high proportion of parts manufactured in Mexico
4 integrate high national value in an aircraft / aircraft manufacturing
4 build an aircraft/plane with a high degree/proportion of national content
4 build a high degree of added value of national origin into an aircraft
3 +1 (disregard "en") build a complete aircraft with a high added-value of national origin
3 fit together/ interweave

Discussion

patyjs (asker) Oct 27, 2010:
The parts are built in Mexico and shipped elsewhere for assembly.
Christine Walsh Oct 27, 2010:
Paty, Could you confirm whether the whole plane will be built and assembled in Mexico, or significant parts for assembly elsewhere? Saludos
patyjs (asker) Oct 27, 2010:
Hello Robert, Yes, it seems strange to me, too. They manufacture aircraft parts and components. (Foreign company with installations in Mexico.)
Robert Forstag Oct 27, 2010:
@Paty Do you know what XXX is going to be manufacturing in the "nuevas instalaciones"? This might make a difference in the translations proposed. The entire phrase "integrar en un avión con alto contenido de valor nacional" seems very strange (at least to me) so any additional clues would help. :)

Proposed translations

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participate in the building of a plane with a high proportion of parts manufactured in Mexico

(Even if it is later put together and tested in the US)

I chose 'manufactured in Mexico' rather than 'national' as I imagined the intended readers would not be Mexican.

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Note added at 57 mins (2010-10-27 01:26:04 GMT)
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I found your original, and I think this is what is meant, though as Robert says it's a strange sentence. I must admit that my version is rather clumsy, though.

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Note added at 6 days (2010-11-02 12:56:10 GMT) Post-grading
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Glad to be of help. Your version is considerably neater.
Note from asker:
Hi Christine, at least now I know what they're getting at. Thanks!
Peer comment(s):
agree swisstell
1 hr
Many thanks!
agree philgoddard : "Mexican-made parts" would be shorter.
4 hrs
Shorter and better! Thanks, Phil
agree Wendy Streitparth : @ Phil, agree
8 hrs
Thanks, Wendy!
agree Robert Forstag
10 hrs
Thanks Robert! Much appreciated
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks, Christine. Your answer helped me understand what was needed and was closest to what I finally went with: ...to participate in the building of an aircraft with high Mexican content value."
9 mins

fit together/ interweave

Suggestion.
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3 hrs

integrate high national value in an aircraft / aircraft manufacturing

Bastante deficiente la redacción de: integrar en un avión con alto contenido de valor nacional.

which are useful in advanced aircraft construction. A written assurance is also re- ...... goods in that a high national value is often placed upon making ...
heinonlinebackup.com/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/...

Includes general research topics related to manned and unmanned aircraft and the ...... consistent with the high national value of the Space Shuttle assets. ...
202.118.250.135/nasa/STAR/star0707.pdf - Similar

It´s all over the news:
21 Oct 2010... hoy aquí su nueva planta para la fabricación de aviones Learjet 85, ... Ciudad de México coloca 160 millones de dólares para financiar ...
mx.news.yahoo.com/.../negocios-abre-bombardier-nueva-planta-aviones.html - Mexico
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4 hrs

build an aircraft/plane with a high degree/proportion of national content

I would say ,,,,
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12 hrs

build a high degree of added value of national origin into an aircraft

Or something like that.

I think that's close to the least awkward way of saying they aim to put as much Mexican added value into the aircraft as they possibly can.
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+1
2 hrs

(disregard "en") build a complete aircraft with a high added-value of national origin

I think the "en" has crept into the term by mistake because in this version below it is not there.

I think "integrar" means to build a complete aircraft.

Reference:
"esta nueva inversión, que dará a ... la capacidad para ***integrar un avión con alto contenido de valor nacional***..."
http://www.economia.gob.mx/swb/work/models/economia/Resource...


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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2010-10-28 13:37:07 GMT)
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according to the reference I gave, the extension to the plant is to be used to produce a new aircraft, which is why I understand "integrar" as "to build a whole aircraft":

"... la construcción de nuevas estructuras como fuselajes y alas, así como de arneses eléctricos y sub ensambles, permitirá a esta firma iniciar la producción del nuevo avión ejecutivo XXXXXXX XX"
Peer comment(s):
agree axies : most probably a typo!
1 day 7 hrs
many thanks Manuel, kind regards! - Deborah
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