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Caucasian languages: a surprise package of linguistic complexity
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Gennady Lapardin
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Thank you, Maya Oct 30, 2007

Thank you, Maya,
now I finally know what the people asked me twenty years ago in Kutais Also, I find in this discussion an interesting point - the comparison between different conglomerations of small and compact cultural-linguistic groups (Caucases and South Africa). My opinion is that Caucasic peoples are like precious stones left after hundreds, may be thousands, historic tides of migrations. They had to live together, un
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Thank you, Maya,
now I finally know what the people asked me twenty years ago in Kutais Also, I find in this discussion an interesting point - the comparison between different conglomerations of small and compact cultural-linguistic groups (Caucases and South Africa). My opinion is that Caucasic peoples are like precious stones left after hundreds, may be thousands, historic tides of migrations. They had to live together, under strongest assimilating influences (from North and from South), and nevertheless still preserve their culture and language. Moreover, ofthen they are who influences, through rich original culture and traditions, the neighbor peoples (Russians, Ukrainians and others).
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Maya Gorgoshidze
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Caucasus Nov 2, 2007

This summer a small group, including my son and me were kicking in the Caucasus mountains. Here are some pictures taken there:

Morning in Roshka village above the clouds, Khevsureti region in the Caucasus mountains, Georgia
 

On the way from Roshka village to Abudelauri lakes
 

Green, blue and white lakes of Abudelauri, and snowy Caucasus mountains, Khevsureti, Georgia

  



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Fabio Descalzi
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Lovely! Nov 2, 2007

You have beautiful landscapes, Maya. Very suggesting.
The most similar mountains I can remember, were in Norway. There I felt all the time that a "troll" could come out of a corner.

Are there any kind of Caucasian mythological creatures "living" in those mountains...? Maybe they keep yet another linguistic treasury hidden!


 
Maya Gorgoshidze
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Devi Nov 2, 2007

Fabio Descalzi Sgarbi wrote:

You have beautiful landscapes, Maya. Very suggesting.
The most similar mountains I can remember, were in Norway. There I felt all the time that a "troll" could come out of a corner.

Are there any kind of Caucasian mythological creatures "living" in those mountains...? Maybe they keep yet another linguistic treasury hidden!


Hi Fabio,

I am surprised at your wonderful intuition
These places were really inhabited with mythological giants called “Devis”. Devi was a furry man-like animal, and it was huge and ugly with small horns. There you can hear a lot of myths about battle of heroes and people with these creatures. When the locals tell these stories, you have such a feeling that they were real... These giants lived everywhere in the Caucasus mountains. Please do not mix this man-eater Devi with other beautiful Devi


 
Gennady Lapardin
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Off-topic Sep 21, 2008

Hi people,

hoping that Maya survived well that terrible August war and the current inundation in Tbilisi, I would like to return to the topic, because today have received from another forum an alert of a book on the matter of dying languages (although i am well aware that Fabio excluded this from the discussion). Given that the people in this thread is interested in the linguistic, it
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Hi people,

hoping that Maya survived well that terrible August war and the current inundation in Tbilisi, I would like to return to the topic, because today have received from another forum an alert of a book on the matter of dying languages (although i am well aware that Fabio excluded this from the discussion). Given that the people in this thread is interested in the linguistic, it may turn useful to somebody.

http://tinyurl.com/4qs2sp
Echolalias: On the Forgetting of Language
by Daniel Heller-Roazen

http://ilmanifesto.it/Quotidiano-archivio/19-Settembre-2008/art55.html

Italian communist newspaper "Il Manifesto" 19 Settembre 2008
"Metamorfosi LINGUISTICHE - SULLE LABILI TRACCE DI UNA PAROLA PERDUTA
La «morte» delle lingue e la loro capacità di trasformarsi e di restare nel tempo. Un incontro con il comparatista canadese Daniel Heller-Roazen, che prenderà parte domani al festival «Babel» di Bellinzona".

Also, taking the occasion I forward my best wishes to Maya in these difficult times and hope that old languages would be able to find new words for the good of all of us.

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Fabio Descalzi
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Reply to your off-topic Sep 21, 2008

Hi Gennady
Gennady Lapardin wrote:
hoping that Maya survived well that terrible August war and the current inundation in Tbilisi ...
... Also, taking the occasion I forward my best wishes to Maya in these difficult times

Yes, Maya is chatting with me right now. She is well and with her family. Thanks for asking about her.
Gennady Lapardin wrote:
I would like to return to the topic, because today have received from another forum an alert of a book on the matter of dying languages (although i am well aware that Fabio excluded this from the discussion). Given that the people in this thread is interested in the linguistic, it may turn useful to somebody.
http://tinyurl.com/4qs2sp
Echolalias: On the Forgetting of Language
by Daniel Heller-Roazen
http://ilmanifesto.it/Quotidiano-archivio/19-Settembre-2008/art55.html

Interesting to get to know about this. But... I am afraid this is fully out-of-topic as it doesn't refer to the Caucasus at all.

Please Gennady, if you want, start a new thread with this (and so we can preserve the "Caucasian" nature of this very thread).
Best regards,
Fabio


 
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