Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

portant

English translation:

rig support (historical background)

Added to glossary by A Zafar
Jan 24, 2023 15:47
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French term

portant

French to English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature Theatre
Hello all,

I am having trouble finding the English equivalent of "portant", as referring to a type of theatre equipment. I've looked up the meaning in French but am not familiar with technical theatre terms in English (I am a native English speaker though).

Context: This is a work of non-fiction. The setting is a theatre in Paris, during a rehearsal. The other theatre staff are seeing the Charleston being danced for the first time and are curious about it:
"À la fin, derrière les portants, les plus jeunes essaient d’imiter, ils voudraient danser le charleston"

My best guess is "rig/lighting rig" because of this definition for the French term: "Série de lampes équipées sur un battant, pouvant se placer derrière les décors à l'aide du crochet." http://www.regietheatrale.com/index/index/thematiques/lexiqu...

But the Petit Robert definition doesn't specify lights, so I'm not sure: "Montant qui soutient un élément de décor, un appareil, au théâtre" https://dictionnaire.lerobert.com/definition/portant

Thank you for your help!
Anam

Discussion

A Zafar (asker) Jan 26, 2023:
Wow, thank you for such a rich discussion and for all the answers! I must apologise for failing to mention that the scene takes place in the 1920s. I didn't think to consider that theatre terminology, and indeed equipment, may have changed since then. Trying to figure out the meaning myself had obviously fried my brain. I have chosen the best answer based on the historical setting but will certainly be looking back at the others for phrasing ideas. Thanks to you all again.
Yvonne Gallagher Jan 24, 2023:
@ All I think it's clear they are hidden by a flat. Probably a masking flat.https://www.theatrecrafts.com/pages/home/topics/scenic-stage...
Samuël Buysschaert Jan 24, 2023:
THÉÂTRE. Armature de bois à l'entrée des coulisses servant de support à un élément de décor; p. méton., cet élément.
Un paravent contourné, en bois jaune, cache la coulisse de droite. L'angle du billard dépasse le portant de gauche sur lequel est peinte une draperie grenat (COCTEAU, Théâtre poche, 1949, p.15)

"Portant lumière. ,,Élément de rampe lumineuse transportable que l'on dispose verticalement en coulisse derrière les châssis de manière à éclairer le plan suivant`` (GITEAU 1970)."

http://atilf.atilf.fr/
TLFi
Philippa Smith Jan 24, 2023:
@Phil You should post it as an answer!
philgoddard Jan 24, 2023:
Thanks, Philippa I wasn't sure about my suggestion, but those are pretty conclusive references.
Philippa Smith Jan 24, 2023:
Also, Larousse has "upright, support (for flats)" as the theatre-specific meaning.
And check this out:
https://fr.ulule.com/hosto/
Bourth Jan 24, 2023:
If it's a rehearsal maybe the light battens have been lowered while technicians adjust them.
Philippa Smith Jan 24, 2023:
I agree with Phil, "in the wings" sounds more likely in the context - I wonder if the technical meaning is a red herring? When you look at these paintings, it's clearly referring to the wings (tho' of course that could be a shift in the meaning over time as the paintings aren't contemporary):
https://collections.louvre.fr/ark:/53355/cl020143265
https://www.osenat.com/lot/86929/8198967-jeanlouis-forain-18...
philgoddard Jan 24, 2023:
You could just guess 'in the wings'. I think the Robert definition is more likely, because the lighting rigs would be on the ceiling.

Proposed translations

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rig support (historical background)

It looks as if your portant is something that no longer exists on stage (see below), even if definitions for it can be found that appear to be modern. It appears to have been a support for rigs of various kinds.

"PORTANT : C'est un MONTANT QUI SOUTIENT LES DÉCORS OU LES APPAREILS D'ÉCLAIRAGE. Le portant se doit d'être aussi "PORTATIF" que possible"
https://lecratere.fr/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Le-vocabulai...

"D'autres appareils de même conception formaient le LUMINAIRE SCÉNIQUE : ce sont les herses horizontales au-dessus des décors et les PORTANTS VERTICAUX placés dans les coulisses. CES ÉQUIPEMENTS NE SONT PLUS EN USAGE."
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampe_(théâtre)

Here the translator has avoided the issue:
"Exécuter l'entretient de base des cintres de plateau. Construire des câbles et poulies qui commandent les PORTANTS DES DÉCORS OU LES HERSES ainsi que l'équipement spécialisé et assister à la construction et installation des gréages courants et spécialisés."
https://www.cmg.ca/CBCbranchjobdescriptions2007FR.pdf
"Performs basic maintenance on the fly systems. Builds cables for FLYING SCENERY or technical equipment and assists in the building and installation of specialized rigging."
https://www.cmg.ca/CBCbranchjobdescriptions2007EN.pdf

"L’éclairage .des scènes exige, comme bien l'on pense, l’emploi d’appareils spéciaux :
1° Des appareils principaux, à plusieurs circuits et à tension variable ; ce sont : les herses, pour l’éclairage des frises ; les PORTANTS et les réflecteurs pour les éclairages en coulisse et les transparents ; les rampes et traînées pour l’éclairage au ras du sol ;" [ ... ] DEPUIS QUELQUES ANNÉES, des techniciens, spécialisés dans l’éclairage des scènes, s’étaient préoccupés de SUPPRIMER CERTAINES PARTIES DU DÉCOR nuisibles à l’illusion du spectateur et, entre autres, les frises et décors suspendus. LEUR SUPPRESSION ENTRAÎNAIT CELLE des herses et DES PORTANTS, nécessitant ainsi tout un nouveau système d’éclairage.
https://www.worldfairs.info/expopavillondetails.php?expo_id=...
[Note the date: Arts du Théatre - Expo Paris 1925]

"Mais c’est quand un décor très compliqué, très accidenté, d’une architecture toute particulière, vient succéder à un décor d’un genre absolument différent et aussi accidenté, aussi compliqué, aussi chargé de détails que celui qui le remplace, c’est alors que la surprise soit grande et que l’effet produit est réellement puissant, parfois enchanteur, et semble toucher au merveilleux. On voit s'engouffrer dans les dessous fermes et châssis, aussitôt remplacés par d'autres fermes qui surgissent d'innombrables trappillons; les PORTANTS qui supportent les châssis de coulisses disparaissent devant de nouveaux PORTANTS présentant des châssis nouveaux, le fond se transforme de même, les frises du décor qui s'évanouit font place aux frises du décor qui apparaît, l'éclairage des herses est modifié selon les besoins de celui-ci, et en moins d'une demi- minute, au signal donné par un timbre retentissant, tout ce travail s'est accompli en présence d'un public émerveillé et qui, malgré toute son attention, n'a pu se rendre compte d'une transformation scénique aussi imprévue, aussi rapide et aussi complète." [this text appears to be old]
https://www.pourkoipas.fr/théâtre-1-4/sur-sce-ne
[Note the date: Dictionnaire historique et pittoresque du théâtre et des arts qui s’en rattachent. Paris 1885. Librairie de Firmin-Didot et Cie]

A portant is also a costume rack, preferably mobile (see image) and can be combined with simple décor as in this modern-day example:

"SCÉNOGRAPHIE, UN LIT ET TROIS PORTANTS
Pour HOSTO, trois PORTANTS SUR ROULETTES aux rideaux blancs symbolisent les murs de l’hôpital tandis qu’un lit d’examen blanc, recouvert d’un drap blanc, figure le lit d’hôpital. Le blanc renvoie à un univers aseptisé. [ ... ] De la même manière, les dimensions des portants (2m x 1.40m x 0.40m) leur confèrent un aspect imposant tandis que le tissu de leurs rideaux leur apporte fluidité et légèreté. Ces portants évoluent tout au long de la pièce tandis que le lit n’est jamais déplacé. Ce sont les murs de l’hôpital qui bougent autour du lit, créant différents espaces [ ... ] Dans ces portants, construits sur mesure pour les besoins du spectacle, sont rangés tous les costumes et accessoires utilisés pendant le spectacle, ce qui permet aux comédiens de ne jamais quitter la scène. De derrière les portants peut apparaitre le visiteur tant attendu, surgir un infirmier sans égard pour l’intimité du patient, entrer un nouveau patient alors que le précédent vient à peine de quitter la chambre "
https://www.theatre-contemporain.net/spectacles/Hosto/ensavo...
[so in this case the portants are a combination of the supports defined above and mobile clothes rack]


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Since I imagine they had mobile costume racks in Josephine's day, even if they were still using the other kind of portant, 'costume rack' could work and, without being anachronistic, signify something people can relate to today.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Your suggested term wouldn't really be idiomatic, although I quite like the idea of 'clothes rails'
3 hrs
I assume the dropping of portants was the result of the change from gas or lime light to electric. I haven't found anything idiomatic for that period.// Correction: 'shinbusters'.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you, historical context is exactly what I needed. Now I know what is actually meant by "portant", I can imagine the scene much better in my mind. Your research and sources are very much appreciated!"
20 mins

strip light

See record 5 of https://www.btb.termiumplus.gc.ca/tpv2alpha/alpha-eng.html?l...
Also called "wing light".
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Wouldn't make a lot of sense in this context, as well as being too ambiguous to be safe in the present text.
4 hrs
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48 mins

in the wings

See the discussion box.
Peer comment(s):

agree Emmanuella
1 min
agree Samuël Buysschaert
22 mins
neutral Yvonne Gallagher : I think that is far too vague. / the wings means off stage./// And I suggested just using "flats" in this context
23 mins
I don't think it's vague at all. It means onstage, but not visible to the audience. You can't say they were "dancing behind the rails or stages for scenery flats".
agree Philippa Smith : Absolutely - for me this is the tone of the sentence. Plus "flats", the literal meaning, are used to make the wings!
30 mins
Exactly. Thank you.
agree Anastasia Kalantzi : The actors gathered in the wings before the start of the first act. (area just off stage)https://theatrelesalmanazar.fr/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Le...
2 hrs
agree Tony M : The best of all suggestions so far, though doesn't really sound idiomatic to me: 'in the wings' is very definitely 'off stage', whereas the whole point here is that they are very close to the dancers actually on the stage, but hidden from the audience.
4 hrs
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1 hr

rail or plate for scenery flat

I think this is most likely. Part of the theatre backdrop scenery. The bottom and lower part of support for the flat is known as a "rail" , and another meaning of "portant" is a (clothes) rail

https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/portant
(Théâtre) Chacun des montants en bois qui soutiennent les décors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_(theatre)

in the context I'd say it just means flat




Peer comment(s):

agree Emmanuella
42 mins
Many thanks:-)
disagree Tony M : Not really correct terminology here, and they would clearly be hiding behind the flats that create the 'masking' — so they can see the dancers on the stage, without being seen by the audience. / Your headword suggestion is quite wrong.
3 hrs
But hiding behind the flats is what I suggested for this context? Look at the last line and Dbox! Fact is they are not OFF stage. // I also said "portant" could mean "clothes rail" so don't see why you are disagreeing with me//oh really....
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1 hr

rigging/ stage rigging or offstage

Rigging doesn't just support lights, but any stage equipment.
However, I think something like 'offstage' sounds more poetic.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : 'portants' in this context wouldn't really be 'rigging', which is too general a term; and 'offstage' isn't really right either.
3 hrs
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4 hrs

behind the scenes

Having done theater myself, "behind the scenes" strikes me as the most fitting translation of "derrière les portants", given the overall mood and context of this sentence.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Tony M : 'behind the scenes' has a quite different, figurative sense from that required here, and in fact in a theatrical context, that would change the meaning.
9 mins
neutral philgoddard : "Scenery" would work, though.
20 hrs
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7 hrs

shinbuster

I have been warned that posting two answers is against the rules, so kindly disregard my earlier answer as an answer and use it as a lead-in to this answer.

I established earlier that a portant is located dans les coulisses. This would make it a sidelight.

"A typical arrangement of stage lighting instruments included gas burners protected by wire guards at both sides of the stage providing SIDELIGHTS, gas wings and ladders. In addition, gas battens, or border lights hung over the stage."

Now, sidelights appear to be very much a thing of the dance scene, more so than for theatre anyway.

"Since SIDELIGHTS carry a natural ability to highlight the movement of performers, these lighting equipment are highly used in DANCE PERFORMANCES."

"In the DANCE, SIDE LIGHTING IS CRUCIAL, which means sidelights in the direction of about 90 ° from the perspective of the viewer, located AT LOW HEIGHTS." (hence their nickname 'shinbusters').

"shinbuster
A type of LIGHTING FIXTURE COMMONLY USED IN DANCE and theatrical performances. It is mounted on the ground and at just the right height to crack your shin into, hence the name."
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shinbuster

"DANCE USES A LOT OF SIDE LIGHT- so much that SIMPLY CALLING IT 'SIDE LIGHT' IS NOT DESCRIPTIVE ENOUGH. So Dance sides are often described BASED ON THE POSITION on the boom: SHINBUSTER OR SHIN FOR THE LIGHT AT THE BOTTOM (named in honor and memory of countless bruises on the lower extremities of dancer and stagehand alike), MID AND HEAD HIGH for lights hung higher."
https://thtr382.weebly.com/direction.html

If it's idiom we're looking for, I feel 'shinbusters' is a good choice.

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