Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Birnenstabprofil / Birnstab
English translation:
[ribs with] pear-shaped profile
Added to glossary by
Helen Shiner
Dec 30, 2013 13:00
10 yrs ago
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German term
Birnenstabprofil
German to English
Other
Architecture
Kirchenarchitektur
I'm translating a brochure describing the architectrure of a church and am stuck on this term for a kind of ribbed vaulting.
Here is a picture of a "Netzgewölbe, mit hängendem Schlußstein, Rippen mit *Birnstabprofil*".
http://www.wernernolte.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=...
Here is a picture of a "Netzgewölbe, mit hängendem Schlußstein, Rippen mit *Birnstabprofil*".
http://www.wernernolte.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=...
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | [ribs with] pear-shaped profile |
Helen Shiner
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| 3 +1 | pear-shaped moulding [US molding] |
Steffen Walter
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| 4 | Keel moulding |
Yorkshireman
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References
| Birnstab |
Helen Shiner
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Change log
Jan 2, 2014 08:53: Helen Shiner Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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[ribs with] pear-shaped profile
See my reference comments.
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Example at Amiens, part of High Gothic repertoire: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LBZ6781vvOwC&pg=PA191&lpg...
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Or ribs pear-shaped in cross-section.
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Note added at 44 mins (2013-12-30 13:45:32 GMT)
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Example at Amiens, part of High Gothic repertoire: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=LBZ6781vvOwC&pg=PA191&lpg...
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Note added at 50 mins (2013-12-30 13:51:27 GMT)
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Or ribs pear-shaped in cross-section.
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pear-shaped moulding [US molding]
This is what my Langenscheidt Dictionary of Architecture and Construction includes:
Birnenstab m (Arch) pear-shaped moulding
(the English implies the "-profil" notion)
See also
http://www.british-towns.net/england/midland/oxfordshire/sou...
http://finds.org.uk/database/search/results/created/2009-07-...
Birnenstab m (Arch) pear-shaped moulding
(the English implies the "-profil" notion)
See also
http://www.british-towns.net/england/midland/oxfordshire/sou...
http://finds.org.uk/database/search/results/created/2009-07-...
Peer comment(s):
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Helen Shiner
: I think this is too modern.
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The first link got cut off automatically (because of the apostrophe) after "moulding-st-peter" when I posted my answer. You'd have to add "'s-church-great-haseley" at the end to make the link work. / Yes, you might be right.
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Madalena Ribeiro
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1 hr
Keel moulding
Birnstab (Wolfgang W. Müller), Sp. 768-770
keel moulding
Source: Zentralinstitut für Kunstgeschichte
Once you get past the Asian characters, the glossary here translates Birnstab as ogee moulding (I'm not quite as certain about the translation as ogee!).
http://www.notices-pdf.com/knauf-lustro-pdf.html#a10
Here's an example of keel moulding:
http://tinyurl.com/o7gd2ly
And an identical (99%) illustration of a Birnstabprofil
http://tinyurl.com/qa2fk83
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Here's another example of (quite complex) keel moulding.
http://tinyurl.com/qhou8ml
BTW - it is very often seen as "Birnstab", rather than "Birnenstab"
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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-12-30 15:44:17 GMT)
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Netzgewölbe, mit hängendem Schlußstein, Rippen mit Birnstabprofil
Would be something like:
Reticulated vault with keel-moulded ribs and a hanging keystone .
keel moulding
Source: Zentralinstitut für Kunstgeschichte
Once you get past the Asian characters, the glossary here translates Birnstab as ogee moulding (I'm not quite as certain about the translation as ogee!).
http://www.notices-pdf.com/knauf-lustro-pdf.html#a10
Here's an example of keel moulding:
http://tinyurl.com/o7gd2ly
And an identical (99%) illustration of a Birnstabprofil
http://tinyurl.com/qa2fk83
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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-12-30 15:30:09 GMT)
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Here's another example of (quite complex) keel moulding.
http://tinyurl.com/qhou8ml
BTW - it is very often seen as "Birnstab", rather than "Birnenstab"
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Note added at 2 hrs (2013-12-30 15:44:17 GMT)
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Netzgewölbe, mit hängendem Schlußstein, Rippen mit Birnstabprofil
Would be something like:
Reticulated vault with keel-moulded ribs and a hanging keystone .
Reference comments
12 mins
Helen Shiner
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Reference:
Birnstab
Als Birnstab wird in der Architektur ein stabförmiges Bauelement mit birnenähnlichem Querschnitt bezeichnet. Diese Form hatte sich aus den rund gegliederten Profilen der Frühgotik in der Stilepoche der Hochgotik als scharfkantiges, mit Hohlkehlen versehenes Schmuckprofil entwickelt. In der Spätgotik bildeten sich dann vielfältig gegratete Profile, aber auch wieder betont einfache Formen heraus. Birnstabelemente wurden für Gewölberippen, Bögen, Dienste an Pfeilern, Laibungen von Fenstern, Portalgewänden und Archivolten verwendet.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birnstab
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rib with pear-shaped profile: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=n1bpANAE7TsC&pg=PA191&lpg...
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rib with pear-shaped profile: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Iihbb_1Uh8MC&pg=PA398&lpg...
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birnstab
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Note added at 18 mins (2013-12-30 13:19:13 GMT)
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rib with pear-shaped profile: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=n1bpANAE7TsC&pg=PA191&lpg...
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Note added at 39 mins (2013-12-30 13:40:04 GMT)
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rib with pear-shaped profile: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Iihbb_1Uh8MC&pg=PA398&lpg...
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